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PostSubject: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:21 am

Does anyone have the affection guide that used to be a sticky on the old forums? If I am correct, Phaelin did the work on it, but I haven't seen him or her since the reboot.

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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:32 pm

Actually, iirc, some of cyllya's guides are still uploaded off of old talesforum. Here's the affection FAQ:
http://talesof.cyllya.com/tos/mhm/affection.html
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:23 pm

Ahahaha, this sucks. Yeah, that was Phaelin's work. Let me copy/paste it again.

~~~ SYLVARANT ~~~

Game start: Initial affection values

  Start of game : Colette +500

(Note: Unless you purchase the "Affection" option from the GRADE shop, Colette starts the game automatically at 500 affection. Everyone else starts at 0.)

Iselia: In classroom

  "It's research." : Genis +120
  "Okay, fine." : no change

Iselia: Talk with the Pastor in the school or outside Martel Temple

  "I'm going too." : Colette +120, Genis +60
  "I'll wait for you." : Genis -60, Raine +60

Martel Temple: Kratos joins

  "What did you say?!" : Kratos -60
  "...Gotcha." : Kratos +60

Martel Temple: After Colette receives her crystal

  First person spoken to : (Character) +60
  Skip them all and just step onto the transporter : no change

Iselia Human Ranch: Talking with Marble

  "Fine" : Genis +60
  "But..." : Genis -60

Iselia Human Ranch: Desians see Marble

  "...Okay." : Genis -60
  "But..." : Genis +60

Dirk's House: When Colette asks to go on the terrace

  "Sure." : Colette +120
  "Just a minute." : no change

Dirk's House: If you said "Just a minute" to Colette

  Talk to Genis first : Genis +60
  Talk to Raine first : Raine +60
  Talk to Kratos first : Kratos +180
  Talk to Colette first : Colette +120

Triet: After Sylvarant Base, check Colette's door

  "Go in." : Colette +60
  "Let's not." : no change

Triet: After Sylvarant Base, search Genis on his bed

  "Pinch his nose!" : no change
  "Let's not wake him." : Genis +60

Triet: After Sylvarant Base, after giving Raine her Key Crest

  Talk to Raine again : Raine +60

Triet: After Sylvarant Base, seeing Kratos going outside

  "Let's follow him." : Kratos +120
  "Let's leave him alone." : no change

Triet: Camping after the first seal, first person spoken to...

  Talk to Colette first : Colette +60

  "It was missing something." : Genis +60
  "It tasted pretty good." : Genis -60

  "Colette is Colette." : Raine +60
  "She's just becoming an angel, right?" : no change

  "The village was my fault." : Kratos +60
  "I guess you're right." : Kratos +120

(Note: Only the first person spoken to is affected in any way--unless you said "she's just becoming an angel" to Raine, in which case the second character you talk to is affected instead.)

Ossa Trail: Sheena falls in the hole

  "Leave her alone. She's an enemy." : Colette -60, Genis -60, Raine +60, Kratos +60
  "Well...I do feel a bit sorry for her." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine -60, Kratos -60, Sheena +180

Izoold: Lyla asks you to deliver a letter

  "Okay." : no change
  "No." : no change

Hima: Sophia asks if you are Sheena's friends

  "Yes." : Sheena +60
  "You've got to be kidding!" : Sheena -60

Hima: Sophia asks you to get Boltzman's Book

  "All right." : Colette +180, Genis +120, Kratos +180, Sheena +180
  "Okay, but..." : Genis +180, Raine +180, Kratos +60

Palmacosta: Kratos offers to train Lloyd

  "Nah, never mind." : Kratos -120
  "Please." : Kratos +120

Palmacosta: Genis's test

  Get all 3 questions correct : Genis +180
  Get 2 questions correct : Genis +60
  Get 1 question correct : Genis -60
  Get all 3 questions wrong : Genis -180

(Note: Accepting the challenge straight off or declining and then going back and doing it later does not matter.)

House of Salvation: Find Sheena praying

  "Speak to her." : no change
  "Leave her alone." : Sheena +180

Luin: Find Sheena playing with some kids

  "You're actually pretty nice." : Raine -60, Sheena +120
  "You're kind of cute." : Colette -60, Sheena +180

Palmacosta Region: When hearing about Chocolat's kidnapping

  "Yeah, okay." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine +60, Kratos +60, Sheena +60
  "Releasing the seals comes first." : Colette -60, Genis -60, Raine +120, Sheena -120

(Note: Sheena is affected only if she's in the party.)

Palmacosta Human Ranch: Upon learning about the trap set by Dorr

  "Let's go attack!" : Colette +120, Genis +120, Raine -120, Kratos -120, Sheena +180
  "Let's return to Palmacosta." : Colette +60, Raine +120, Kratos +120, Sheena -120

(Note: Sheena is affected only if she's in the party.)

Palmacosta: Dorr asks Lloyd to save his wife

  "Okay." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Sheena +60
  "That I can't do." : Raine +60, Kratos +60, Sheena +60

(Note: Sheena is affected only if she's in the party.)

House of Salvation: Searching for the Spiritua Statue

  "I'll go get it." : Colette +120, Genis +60, Raine -120, Kratos -60, Sheena +120
  "The problem is the geyser." : Colette +60, Raine +120, Kratos +60

(Note: Sheena is affected only if she's in the party.)

Thoda Geyser: Obtaining the Spiritua Statue

  Succeed : Colette +180, Genis +180, Raine +180, Kratos +180, Sheena +180
  Fail (Colette) : Colette +120, Genis -60, Raine -60, Sheena -60
  Fail (Genis) : Colette -60, Genis +120, Raine -180, Sheena -60
  Fail (Kratos) : Kratos +120, Sheena -60
  Fail (Raine) : Colette -60, Genis -120, Raine +120, Sheena -60
  Fail (Sheena) : Colette -60, Genis -60, Raine -60, Sheena +120

(Note: Upon failure, the character who rescues Lloyd is the one who currently has the highest affection out of the above five.)
(Note: Sheena is affected regardless of whether she is in the party or not.)

Asgard: Kratos offers to train Lloyd

  "Nah, I'll pass." : Kratos -60
  "Yeah, I'll go." : Kratos +180

Luin: Find Sheena in the devastated Luin

  Encounter Sheena : Sheena +180

Luin: Sheena offers to join the party

  "Okay." : Colette +60, Sheena +60
  "No." : Colette -60, Raine +120, Sheena -60

(Note: Sheena will only offer to join if, after the +180 boost above, she's in your top three (not counting Tethe'alla characters) in terms of affection.)

Luin: Discussion after learning how Exspheres are created

  "All right." : Colette +180, Genis +180, Raine +120, Kratos +60, Sheena +180
  "No!" : Kratos +180

Luin: Kratos offers to train Lloyd

  "No, it's okay." : Kratos -180
  "Yeah, you're right." : Kratos +180

Asgard Human Ranch: Team selection (upon confirmation of team)

  Infiltration team : (Character) +60
  Deactivation team : (Character) -60 (Kratos gets -180)

(Note: Sheena gets -60 for being on the deactivation team despite the extra dialogue you get for putting her there.)

Tower of Mana: Team selection (only applies to the first time you pick)

  Person chosen to accompany Lloyd and Colette : (Character) +60
  Three people left behind : (Character) -60

(Note: This affection impact does not occur if Sheena is not in the party when you come here.)

Asgard: Find the Fake Chosen group at the dais

  "Well, all right." : Colette +180, Genis -60, Raine -120, Kratos -120, Sheena +120, Zelos -60, Presea -180, Regal +120
  "No." : Colette -60, Genis +120, Raine +180, Kratos +120, Sheena -60, Zelos +60, Presea +120, Regal -120

(Note: Only those characters who are actually in the party at the time are affected.)

Hima: Before going to the Tower of Salvation

  First person spoken to : (Character) +60
  Skip everyone and just talk to Colette : Colette +60

Hima: Kratos offers to train Lloyd

  "Nah, I don't need it." : Kratos -60
  "Please." : Kratos +180

Hima: Choose who to ride the dragon with

  "I think Genis." : Colette +60, Genis +60
  "I think the Professor." : Colette -60, Raine +60
  "I think Sheena." : Colette -120, Sheena +120

~~~ TETHE'ALLA (AND BEYOND) ~~~

Meltokio: Raine makes a proposal to Zelos and the Pope

  "All right. That's fine." : Colette +120, Genis -120, Raine +120, Zelos +180, Presea -60
  "No, we can't do that." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine -120, Zelos -120, Presea +120

Meltokio: The party stays overnight at Zelos's mansion

  Talk to party members : no change (for the record)

Sybak: Talk to the woman about Kratos's movements

  "Who cares." : Genis +60, Raine -60, Kratos -60, Sheena +60, Zelos +180, Presea +60, Regal -60
  "Yeah." : Colette +60, Genis -60, Raine +60, Kratos +60, Sheena -60, Zelos -180, Presea -60, Regal +60

Ozette: Man near the item shop insults Presea

  "I understand." : Raine +120, Zelos +120, Presea +180, Regal +120
  "How can you say that?!" : Colette +120, Genis +120, Sheena +120, Presea +180

Ozette: Presea asks to accompany the group

  "Of course." : Genis +60, Raine +60, Sheena +60, Zelos +60, Presea +180, Regal +180
  "What do you think, guys?" : Genis +120, Raine +180, Zelos +180, Presea +60, Regal +60

Ozette: Talk to woman in inn who mentions Kratos

  "I'm concerned about this." : Colette +60, Genis -60, Raine +120, Kratos +180, Sheena -60, Zelos -180, Presea -60, Regal +60
  "It won't do us any good to worry about it." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine -60, Kratos -180, Sheena +60, Zelos +180, Presea +60

Mizuho: Vice-Chief Tiga tells Sheena to form a pact with Volt

  Talk to party members : no change (for the record)

Temple of Earth: Gnomelette wants Curry

  Person who cooks : (Character) +120

Temple of Ice: Genis asks Lloyd three questions about the Celsius' Tear

  Celsius' Tear quiz : no change (really!)

Altessa's House: Mithos asks to accompany the group

  "All right, come on." : Colette +60, Genis +180, Raine +180, Sheena -60, Zelos -120, Presea -180, Regal +120
  "No, it's just too dangerous." : Colette +120, Genis -180, Raine -120, Sheena +120, Zelos +180, Presea +180, Regal -60

Altamira: Regal asks to accompany the group

  "Of course." : Colette +120, Sheena +120, Zelos +120, Regal +180
  "If that's all right with Presea." : Genis +120, Raine +120, Presea +180

Meltokio: Enter the coliseum to save Kate

  Enter as Lloyd : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine +60, Kratos +180, Sheena +60, Zelos +60, Presea +60, Regal +60
  Enter as someone else : (Character who entered) +180

Thoda Dock: Candy asks questions about Regal

  "Leave them alone." : Regal -60
  "Save him." + "Lloyd." : Regal +180
  "Save him." + "Zelos." : Regal +120
  "Save him." + "Regal." + "President of a large company." + "Tofu." + "in Tethe'alla." + "60 billion Gald." + "Alicia." : Regal +600 (!)
  "Save him." + "Regal." + "the Pope." + "Cucumber." + "in a dwarf's house." + "Secret." + "Presea." : Regal +0

(Note: I haven't yet mapped out all of the other choices, but I have listed the maximum and minimum extremes as far as I have seen.)

Iselia Human Ranch: Team selection (upon confirmation of team)

  Reactor team : (Character) +60 (Kratos gets +120)
  Rescue team : no change

Dirk's House: Talk to your highest-affection character on the terrace

  Talk to party members : no change (for the record)

Sybak: In the Archives looking for information on Colette's illness

  "I trust Kratos." : Colette +120, Genis +120, Raine +120, Kratos +180, Sheena +60, Zelos +60, Presea +60, Regal +60
  "There is a possibility." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine +60, Kratos +60, Sheena +120, Zelos +180, Presea +120, Regal +120

Altamira: Rosa asks you to give some money to Joshua

  "I'm sorry, but we can't." : no change
  "All right." : no change

Sybak: Talking to Joshua about Rosa

  "Tell the truth" : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine -60, Sheena +60, Zelos -60, Presea -60, Regal +60
  "Keep quiet" : Colette +120, Genis -60, Raine +60, Sheena -60, Zelos +60, Presea +60, Regal +120

Altessa's House: Raine collapses

  "Let them do what they want." : Raine +60
  "I'd better keep tabs on them." : Genis +180

Altessa's House: Search the Exsphere on the table

  Learn about Exspheres : Presea +180

Meltokio: Find Kratos near the castle

  "Yeah, you're right." : Colette +180, Genis +120, Raine +120, Kratos -180, Sheena +180, Zelos +180, Presea +120, Regal +180
  "We can't just ignore it." : Colette +60, Genis -120, Raine +60, Kratos +180, Sheena -60, Zelos -180, Presea -60, Regal +60

Meltokio: Talk to Janet

  "Is something wrong?" : Presea +120
  "Let's go." : no change

Sybak: Talk to Horace

  "Do you really want to leave it like that?" : Presea +120
  "Okay, let's get going." : no change

Meltokio: Talk to Janet after talking to Horace

  "Presea..." : Presea +240
  "Let's go." : no change

Exire: Encounter Virginia

  Learn about Virginia : Raine +180

Meltokio: Princess Hilda is kidnapped

  Rescue Princess Hilda : Zelos +180

Sybak: Boy from slums has lost his mother

  Help the lost boy : Zelos +180

Mizuho: Duel with Kuchinawa

  "Kuchinawa was working with the Pope." : Sheena -180
  "I don't know anything about it." : Sheena +180

Mizuho: Duel with Kuchinawa

  First party member spoken to in town : (Character) +60
  Skip them all and just talk to Orochi : no change

Mizuho: Lose the duel with Kuchinawa

  Lose to Kuchinawa : Sheena -180

(Editor's Note: I have no idea why Sheena loses respect for Lloyd when she's the one who lost the duel...)

Mizuho: Win the duel with Kuchinawa

  "Stop him" : Colette +120, Genis +120, Raine +60, Sheena +180, Zelos +180, Presea +60, Regal +120
  "Don't stop him" : Colette -120, Genis -60, Raine +180, Sheena +120, Zelos -120, Presea +120, Regal +180

(Note: Kratos is unaffected even if he's in the party when you do this. Zelos IS affected even if he's NOT in the party when you do this...)

Flanoir Inn Decision: Pick a soul mate

  Character(s) you reject (if any) : (Character) -180
  Person you go outside with : (Character) +180
  Last character you go out with automatically if you reject first three : no change

(Note: If you reject the first three and go out with the fourth, that character does not gain the +180 boost for being picked. To get the boost you have to get them into the top three and deliberately pick them.)

  Pick anyone BUT Kratos : Zelos +180
  Pick Kratos : Zelos -180

(Note: Zelos gains/loses regardless of whether you picked someone deliberately or went outside automatically with the fourth.)
(Note: If you pick Zelos, he gains both of these, for a total of +360. If you reject Zelos and pick Kratos, Zelos gets -360.)

Meltokio: Dinner party

  "I bet it's (Character)." : (Character) +180
  "I wonder who it is." : Kratos +180

Altamira: Mother has lost her four daughters

  "Sure." : Colette +180
  "That sounds like a pain...." : Colette -60

(Note: You cannot complete this event if you choose the latter.)

Altamira: Beach time

  "Is it (Character)?" : (Character) +180

Mizuho: Chief Igaguri awakens

  First party member spoken to while camping : (Character) +60

Mizuho: Get Sheena's "Successor" title

  Get this title : Sheena +180

Izoold: Find Clara on the beach

  "Save her." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine +120, Kratos +120, Sheena +60, Zelos +60, Presea +60, Regal +60
  "Leave her alone." : Colette -60, Genis -60, Raine -120, Kratos -120, Sheena -60, Zelos -60, Presea -60, Regal -60

(Note: Kratos and Zelos are both affected even if they're not presently in the party.)

Gaoracchia Forest: Pick up the Fafnir

  "Just bear it for now, okay?" : Colette +60, Genis -60, Raine -60, Sheena -60, Zelos -60, Presea +60, Regal -60
  "Should we stop collecting them?" : Genis +60, Raine +60, Sheena -60, Zelos +60, Presea +120

(Note: Kratos is unaffected even if he's in the party when you do this. Zelos IS affected even if he's NOT in the party when you do this...)

Nova's Caravan: Discussion about the Monster List

  "Yeah." : Raine +60
  "I dunno about that...." : Raine -60

Luin: Aifread offers a second contract (first time only)

  "Okay." : Colette +60, Genis -60, Raine -60, Kratos +60, Sheena +60, Zelos +60, Presea -60, Regal -60
  "No way." : Genis +60, Raine +60, Sheena -60, Presea +60, Regal +60

(Note: If you choose the latter, leave Luin and return to get Aifread to reappear. Talking to him again gives you the dialogue choice again, but only the first time impacts affection.)
(Note: Only those characters who are in the party at the time are affected.)

Heimdall: Night before Lloyd's duel with Kratos

  Talk to party members : no change (for the record)

Meltokio: Get Regal's "God of The Kitchen" title

  Get this title : Regal +180

Meltokio: Learn about Regal's master

  "You bet." : Regal +180
  "...Ah, well..." : no change

(Note: You cannot later find Levin at the Hot Spring if you choose the latter.)

Hot Spring: Talk to Regal's master

  Talk to Levin : Regal +180

Ozette: Talk to Ralph

  "Was it because your heart was strong?" : no change
  "Was it because you had a friend?" : no change

Martel Temple: Sheena hears Corrine's voice

  Meet Verius : no change (just for the record)

Niflheim: Burning the book after defeating the final boss

  "Don't burn the Soulfire" : no change
  "Burn the Soulfire" : no change

~~~ MISCELLANEOUS ~~~

(Note: All skit point numberings are based on the official BradyGames guide.)
(Note: Yes, I individually tested each and every one of the skit points.)

Skit Point #S-1: East of Iselia House of Salvation

  "You did?" : Genis +60
  "Oh." : no change

Skit Point #S-2: South of Triet Ruins

  "I'll leave her alone." : no change
  "What's wrong, Professor?" : Raine +60

Skit Point #S-3: South of Ossa Trail entrance

  "You seem happy." : Colette +60
  "Wierdo." : no change

Skit Point #S-4: South of Izoold

  "Yeah." : no change
  "What's foolish about it?!" : Kratos +60

Skit Point #S-5: West of Iselia House of Salvation, over mountains

  "Oh, I see." : Presea +120
  "I doubt it." : no change

Skit Point #S-6: Island west of Palmacosta, north of Remote Island Human Ranch

  "No." : no change
  "Sure." : Presea +120

Skit Point #S-7: Next to river west of Thoda Dock

  "Yeah." : Sheena +60
  "Does it?" : no change

Skit Point #S-8: Island west of Palmacosta House of Salvation near All-Divide

  "What?! Are you serious?" : Zelos +60
  "Sure, go ahead." : no change

Skit Point #S-9: North of Balacruf Mausoleum

  "Never mind." : no change
  "I'll pay you when I get rich." : Zelos +60

Skit Point #S-10: East of Tower of Mana and Asgard Human Ranch, behind mountains

  "I'll just leave her alone." : no change
  "What's wrong?" : Colette +60

Skit Point #S-11: North of Lake Umacy (just over mountains from #10)

  "I see..." : Raine +60
  "Don't try to console me." : no change

Skit Point #S-12: South of Luin on the cliffs

  "That's true." : Kratos +60
  "You're no fun." : no change

Skit Point #S-13: West of the Tower of Mana, on beach

  "It's probably useless." : no change
  "You'll get better eventually." : Raine +60

Skit Point #S-14: Next to the bridge from Izoold to Hima

  "Yeah." : no change
  "No." : Genis +60

Skit Point #S-15: Northeast of Hima on cliffs near Luin

  "...Whatever." : no change
  "I don't dislike you." : Kratos +60

Skit Point #S-16: South of Hima near Guidepost Monument, west of Tower of Salvation

  "Hehe, I know." : Colette +60
  "You think?" : no change

Skit Point #S-17: On sandy peninsula south of Sylvarant Tower of Salvation

  "What're you doing?" : Genis +60
  "I'll leave him alone." : no change

Skit Point #S-18: Grassy peninsula south of Asgard, northeast of #17

  "So what?" : no change
  "Yeah." : Sheena +60

Skit Point #S-19: South end of Katz' Village island, on beach

  "I'll leave him alone." : no change
  "What's on your mind?" : Regal +180

Skit Point #S-20: Thoda Geyser island

  "You really are mature." : Regal +180
  "You really are prude." : no change

Skit Point #T-1: East of Fooji Mountains and northeast of Temple of Darkness

  "What's wrong, Professor?" : Raine +60
  "Don't know, don't wanna know." : no change

Skit Point #T-2: North of Gaoracchia Forest, in sandy desert area

  "What's wrong?" : Genis +60
  "Stop daydreaming." : no change

Skit Point #T-3: Southwest of Tethe'alla Tower of Salvation

  "Being the Chosen is tough, huh?" : Zelos +60
  "I see." : no change

Skit Point #T-4: Southwest of Mizuho

  "Okay." : Sheena +60
  "What, to you?" : no change

Skit Point #T-5: East of Tower of Salvation near circle forest

  "Okay." : no change
  "Wow!" : Colette +60

Skit Point #T-6: Small island northeast of Ozette

  "Yeah." : Presea +120
  "Don't be too afraid, though." : no change

Skit Point #T-7: North of Temple of Lightning

  "I see." : no change
  "Oh there." : Sheena +60

Skit Point #T-8: West of the Temple of Lightning

  "Yeah. You're right." : Colette +60
  "Well, duh." : no change

Skit Point #T-9: Southwest of Flanoir

  "...What're you doing?!" : Kratos +60
  "I'll leave him alone." : no change

Skit Point #T-10: Southeast of Flanoir, along narrow path

  "Very unlike you to be brooding." : Zelos +60
  "Whatever." : no change

Skit Point #T-11: Southeast of Altamira island

  "I don't care." : no change
  "Anything's fine." : Genis +60

Skit Point #T-12: Northeast of Altamira

  "That's hard to imagine." : Regal +180
  "Hahahaha!" : no change

Skit Point #T-13: South of Ymir House of Guidance

  "Well, it doesn't matter." : no change
  "Why?" : Zelos +60

Skit Point #T-14: Southwest of Latheon Gorge, on grass by mountains

  "Huh? Are you crying?" : Sheena +60
  "Wow...Sheena's crying." : no change

Skit Point #T-15: South of Ymir Forest

  "Fine then." : no change
  "Why do you try to act tough?" : Raine +60

Skit Point #T-16: Southwest of Toize Valley Mine

  "Does it matter?" : no change
  "...What?!" : Presea +120

Skit Point #T-17: South of Toize Valley Mine, near pier

  "Such a hassle." : no change
  "Yeah, you're right." : Regal +180

Skit Point #T-18: East of Toize Valley Mine, on far east side of continent

  "Is something wrong?" : Presea +120
  "I'll leave her alone." : no change

Skit Point #T-19: East of Guidepost Monument northeast of Toize Valley Mine hidden in trees

  "I doubt it." : no change
  "Maybe." : Colette +60

Skit Point #T-20: Islands in northwest Tethe'alla

  "No, it's not." : Regal +180
  "Take a compliment for once!" : no change

Cooking: Lloyd cooks a dish using...

  Beef : Lloyd +1
  Bell Pepper : Colette -1
  Cucumber : Regal -1
  Lemon : Colette +1, Raine +1
  Melon : Colette +1, Zelos +1, Regal -1
  Milk : Genis +1
  Mushroom : Raine -1
  Octopus : Zelos -1
  Rice : Sheena +1
  Snapper : Zelos +1
  Tofu : Regal +1
  Tomato : Lloyd -1, Kratos -1
  Tuna : Kratos +1, Zelos +1
  (Any other fruit not listed above) : Colette +1
Edit: Carrot: Genis -1 (Thanks for the heads up Phaelin)

(Note: All changes are capped at +/- 1 point per dish per character.)
(Note: A character has to be in the party to be affected. It doesn't matter if they're alive or dead, or if they are fighting in battles or sitting on the sidelines. They just have to be there in your menu screen.)


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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:26 pm

Thanks cutepresea! I will need to use this if I ever want to beat the game with all the dialogue. You rock!

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1) Is there a way to change the title of this topic now that this contains the affection guide? I think the question mark should be removed and the expression SPOILERS added since there are some spoilers in what cutepresea posted.
2) Can this topic be made into a sticky? I'm sorry if I'm being a hassle. I just know this guide can help some people, especially with all of the work that went into it.

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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:05 am

Yeah, I'll go ahead and fix it for you. And I do think it should be stickied. If we manage to find or make any other guides, we could end up making this a general ToS guides sticky.
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:37 am

If there are trophies for this we will all go insane.
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:29 pm

I have a question. Does doing a combination unison attack with Lloyd raise a character's affection with him? I have followed this guide pretty strictly and when I got to the Thoda Geyser, by failing, it should have been Colette who saved me because she had 800 points. However, Genis was the one who saved me, and his total was only 780 (I am trying to get genis in this playthrough, for the record).

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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:37 pm

Man, I can't make anyone but Colette happy. I'll work on Colette for the first playthrough when I fight Zelos and the second for when I don't.
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:24 am

This guide really helps if you want to shake Colette off. You just need to be patient. Even making sure you anger Colette at every possible chance, it still takes awhile since she starts so high and a lot of the choices that "anger" her still give her positive points. If it helps, this guide has never steered me wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:02 am

That's just mean. Anyway, Colette went off with Lloyd at the end of the story, it's canon, I'll stick with her.
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:29 pm

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That's just mean. Anyway, Colette went off with Lloyd at the end of the story, it's canon, I'll stick with her.
You won't get 100% if you do Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:20 am

No problem, I'll just play the game over and over again. First playthrough is for killing Zelos. Any other playthrough after that and I'll have him for the entire game, provided I keep titles and all book data. Currently I have 283 Grade too.
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:29 am

If I may, I'd like to recommend going for Zelos first.

Getting Colette to like you is incredibly easy, and she gains 500 affection for lloyd at the start of each game, if I understand the mechanics correctly. She'll like you more than all the others just for starting the game.

If you don't pay attention to piss her off at every chance you get, she's annoyingly hard to get rid of in favor of Zelos or Kratos.
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:29 pm

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That's just mean. Anyway, Colette went off with Lloyd at the end of the story, it's canon, I'll stick with her.

If you think that is mean, just wait until you start intentionally angering Genis. His dialogue after a battle if he dislikes Lloyd is vindictive.

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If I may, I'd like to recommend going for Zelos first.

Getting Colette to like you is incredibly easy, and she gains 500 affection for lloyd at the start of each game, if I understand the mechanics correctly. She'll like you more than all the others just for starting the game.

If you don't pay attention to piss her off at every chance you get, she's annoyingly hard to get rid of in favor of Zelos or Kratos.

I am quite sure that Emil has already started the game. I feel that if you are going for a character in the Tethe'alla half of the game, you really have to plan ahead since you have to keep everyone on the Sylvarant side low enough for the Tethe'alla half to catch up. It is easiest to get Colette, but you get (most of) her dialogue anyway if Kratos is the character with the most affection for Lloyd.

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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:50 am

And the thing is the affection carries over but it's not like there are negative results. I mean, Kratos can't have -60 affection just cause Lloyd said "What did you say?!" Point is Colette: 500, Genis: 120, Kratos -60? Kratos would still have 0 affection, not -60.
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:27 am

What I meant is, if I understand the system correctly, that Colette will gain +500 affection for Lloyd whenever you start the game again (NG+).

1: 500
2: endgame affection + 500
3: two endgame affections combined + 500

It gets harder and harder to kick her out of your top three.

And you will want to kick her out of your top three if you want to unlock all the costumes and titles as quickly as possible. (three playthroughs instead of four or five I think...?)

And of course Zelos. When you're trying to get Zelos you'll either piss off Colette a little or make her like you even more than Zelos will like you for the choice you made.
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:29 pm

No wonder I never kicked her out of the first spot during my third playthrough, damn you Clingy Coletty.

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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:07 pm

I thought, affection will only carry over if you choose that option in the Grade Shop? I remember something was there.
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:41 pm

Phaelin's guide says the start game 500 happen again I'm pretty sure uwu

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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:52 am

It may not be that bad for the Swimsuit titles. Lloyd will get his by default, two high affection chars will get theirs and a person of Lloyd's choice will also get theirs.

But what about the dance party?

You know what, I'll save the no Zelos ending for my second playthrough, get his affection ranking high enough to be in my top 3, then talk to him in Flanoir.

Playthrough 1: Pick Raine for Swimsuit. Colette and third will get theirs.

Playthrough 2: Pick Zelos for Swimsuit then kill him.

Playthrough 3: Pick Colette for Flanoir and Presea for Swimsuit.

Play 4: Colette, Regal for Swimsuit

Play 5: Colette, Tie between Sheena and Genis (If I haven't gotten theirs already.)
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:03 pm

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It may not be that bad for the Swimsuit titles. Lloyd will get his by default, two high affection chars will get theirs and a person of Lloyd's choice will also get theirs.

But what about the dance party?

You get Lloyd's, a character of your choice and the 3 characters you speak to during the party.

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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:30 pm

Saeko wrote:
Emil12345 wrote:
But what about the dance party?

You get Lloyd's, a character of your choice and the 3 characters you speak to during the party.
Did they change it?

I thought I got everyone's at once on the GC.
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:04 pm

It was always like that but at least you can get all of them on a second playthrough, unlike the swimsuits.

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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:26 am

What about other choices like Who should be mayor after Luin is completely reconstructed, or the teacup ride.
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PostSubject: Re: Affection Guide [Spoilers Beware]   Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:25 am

Emil12345 wrote:
What about other choices like Who should be mayor after Luin is completely reconstructed, or the teacup ride.
I have no recollection of these events.
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