Lets talk about how this game sucks.

Lunatic Drache · Subject: Re: Lets talk about how this game sucks. Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:54 pm

Roadie wrote:

I pretty much breezed through the battles until I got to Alice and Decus. I had to do a lot of grinding to beat them but the final boss was easy.

What the hell...? I breezed through the two dorks, but got stopped by the final boss. Went up just three levels and pwned his ass.

I feel like I fail =(

Um, right. Disliking.

Marta clings on to Emil and doesn't let go. She was off-putting for a looooooong while.

Roadie · Subject: Re: Lets talk about how this game sucks. Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:39 pm

Lunatic Drache wrote:

What the hell...? I breezed through the two dorks, but got stopped by the final boss. Went up just three levels and pwned his ass.

I don't think I leveled up enough because I first tried fighting them at level 45. Then I went up to level 55 and they were pretty easy.

Gterren · Number of posts: 9 Registration date: 2008-11-30

I found it on par with tales of destiny JPN difficulty in areas. (Speaking about the start of the game, and some boss battles><) As stated the map sucked...I hate the monster collect'em all thing. and why the heck can't I play the monsters? They're in my party? freaking what is this???

Good side though, the battle system was step up some. At least they improved on that bit...But yeah, a lot of things could have been worked out. (looks at the multilayer function) at least it had multilayer. It could've turned out like Legendia from the way they were making things. But yeah, the monster thing needed to go...>.> it was a good idea, but...not being in control or having people who could make them do stuff, made it annoying...

Oh and Emil, not Ratatosk, annoyed the heck outta me.

jesselt · Jesslut Number of posts: 46 Registration date: 2008-11-29

I thought the battle system was a step down, honestly. I don't remember a time in previous tales games that I've played where I'm at full health and suddenly I'm dead because three monsters surrounded me >_>

It's only happened like twice but it happens so quickly that I'm just like wtf

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Jean · Subject: Re: Lets talk about how this game sucks. Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:30 pm

I hate the Alice and Decus fight. The fight itself because it required so much grinding, and what happens after is pretty much WTF too

All the game she treat him like trash and all of a sudden she loves him.. wtf. Makes . no. sense.

I also hate how it's auto game over if only monsters are still alive. Feels like an artificial way to raise the difficulty.

It also bothers me how the original cast keeps on joining and leaving the party every 2 seconds. It gets annoying.

braindead2000 · Subject: Re: Lets talk about how this game sucks. Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:35 pm

I didn't grind on Alice and Decus at all.

You guys just suck.

Atlas · Number of posts: 687 Age: 19 Registration date: 2008-11-28

Jean wrote:

Stuff

Do her sidequest she has feelings for him the entire game actually.

TheOriginalFanatic · Subject: Re: Lets talk about how this game sucks. Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:13 am

Atlas wrote:

Jean wrote:

Stuff

Do her sidequest she has feelings for him the entire game actually.

Are you speaking of like the Hima part or the old lady part? It was quite sad.

Atlas · Number of posts: 687 Age: 19 Registration date: 2008-11-28

TheOriginalFanatic wrote:

Atlas wrote:

Jean wrote:

Stuff

Do her sidequest she has feelings for him the entire game actually.

Are you speaking of like the Hima part or the old lady part? It was quite sad.

Both actually.

Toku · Subject: Re: Lets talk about how this game sucks. Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:21 am

I thought Alice and Decus wasn't really that hard actually. I guess I was at the right levels already so maybe that's why.

I hated how hard the human enemies were compared to the monster enemies and how if you were stunned they could just maul you to death while you stood there for a few seconds.

Fenekk · Lazaka! Number of posts: 119 Age: 21 Registration date: 2008-12-12

jesselt wrote:

No, I'm not trying to flamebait or anything. I'm not even saying that this is a bad game... But. There are some really, really stupid/annoying things about it. Discuss them here in this hate fest.

WHY do monsters spawn like immediately after you leave their frame. If you walk down a path, fight a monster along the way, and discover that it's a dead end or something then on the way back you HAVE TO FIGHT THE MONSTER AGAIN. ALJRHWFKLJWQE.

Why is there no graphic for firing the sorcerers ring.

Why did you half ass the game and not create a world map.

Why are there level caps on old party members.

Why is the game so short.

Why does is feel like just a really long side quest.

Why is Emil so annoying.

Why did you make acquiring recipes basically pointless.

Thanks for voicing the skits. Combo breaker, etc.

Why are the dungeons so easy.

Why.

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Why did you half ass the game and not create a world map.

I think this maybe seems like a lack of effort on the part of the programmers, but when you think about it, it could be plot related.

The monsters probably weren't roaming around the way they were in the original Symphonia, and even if they were, it was often said that they were drawn to the Centurion's cores due to their powers going out of control while they were in core state. In the case of Hima, too, it was demonic activity.

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Why are the dungeons so easy.

I thought the Symphonia dungeons were too short and easy to begin with, but maybe that's just me. Then again, I was used to Golden Sun dungeons... x_x

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Why does is feel like just a really long side quest.

Because it's a sequel. Very few sequels were planned when making the original game, thus making them often disconnected from the original plot, short, confusing, or even bad. Personally I liked it, but I think it would have been better if it was elaborated on more as an independent story.

Let me add a new one, though.

Why do the monsters level up so dang fast?

And why did they leave a lot of the characters undeveloped or underdeveloped? That bugs me. Sad

Oh yeah, and where did Lloyd's personality go?

Drake · Jigglypuff Number of posts: 510 Age: 17 Registration date: 2008-11-27

For evolution purposes. It is broken, though.

etc

Lloyd's personality left with Scott.

Fenekk · Lazaka! Number of posts: 119 Age: 21 Registration date: 2008-12-12

Drake wrote:

For evolution purposes. It is broken, though.

etc

Lloyd's personality left with Scott.

Well I knew that, but I was pointing out the brokenness. Wink

And... no, I don't think it's the fault of the voice actor, I mean... he seems to be completely different and devoid of personality in comparison to the original Lloyd. It's not just the voice; it's the dialogue too.

Drake · Jigglypuff Number of posts: 510 Age: 17 Registration date: 2008-11-27

Well, it wasn't just Lloyd. All the old characters' personalities were based entirely on little things that happened in the first game, and exaggerated grossly.

lol lezareno company owns everything
lol paw pads and charms
lol fall into holes
etc

Zelos and Colette were written nicely, though.

Fenekk · Lazaka! Number of posts: 119 Age: 21 Registration date: 2008-12-12

Drake wrote:

Well, it wasn't just Lloyd. All the old characters' personalities were based entirely on little things that happened in the first game, and exaggerated grossly.

lol lezareno company owns everything
lol paw pads and charms
lol fall into holes
etc

Zelos and Colette were written nicely, though.

You're right. I was starting to think that Namdai was trying to pump up the fanservice and nothing more. I just think Lloyd was the worst because he literally had NO personallity. XDD

I was surprised at Colette... I kind of thought she was okay in DotNW, and I don't like her. Wink

Zelos was awesome, but that was to be expected when he and Sheena are in the same room together. Very Happy

And yeah, I didn't get the thing about Presea and the charms. I mean, I only played ToS through all the way once, so I suppose it's something I missed or that didn't stick out. I thought maybe they were trying a new thing with her.

I did like that part when they were trying to get to Altessa's, the part with the iron maiden. That was strangely funny. Wink

But yeah, seriously. What's up with Sheena falling into holes? Not once, but twice. It was funny the first time. Not the second or the third.

Personally I don't mind Raine's "ruin mode" though. It's pretty epic to begin with.