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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:53 pm
Ahh, I see, makes sense, thank you! I do know some people were saying
Spoiler:
Alisha's default just is available to Rose from the get go, and when Alisha rejoins she has Rose's available just there as well.
EDIT: DLC is now available to those of you with the game! Kouli tweeted to search by Alisha
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:58 pm
ShivKH wrote:
EDIT: DLC is now available to those of you with the game! Kouli tweeted to search by Alisha
Thanks for the heads up. I didn't check yet because I thought it'd be put up after noon. :3 *downloading* Edit: 205 MB for anyone who needs to know the size.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:52 pm
Alisha's second MA in the DLC:
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:05 am
Ah, there's a new battle theme for the DLC. Nice. Also, booooo, Rising Up isn't playing in グレイブガント, brb rating 1/5 (kidding, kidding)
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:22 am
From streams I'm getting a real F-arc feel from this and I'm liking that, I'm really glad they went the extra mile with giving this little arc its own battle theme and some new areas.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:26 am
The DLC also has new trophies, but they're only showing up in my list if I switch to offline mode. :/ (It just bugs me because I like keeping track of stuff, even if I don't plan to 100% it) Edit: They put up a trailer for the DLC
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:57 am
Cutie P, when you can, can you tell us what the prize is that you get to carry over to main game? I heard such a thing existed
I like the trailer <3
Sucks about the trophies D:
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:50 am
Okay, so for those who are curious about some DLC stuff: Definitely don't play this before beating the game. Even though you can, it spoils the ending, so...don't. Length is a few hours, more or less, depending on whether you're blind and don't see the switches on the wall like me. There are a few new dungeons, but they're just more of those cave/ruins side dungeons from the main game that I was already tired of. Blah. New battle theme, as stated above Also stated above, Alisha gets a new Mystic Arte There are six new trophies. I only got four. I have NO idea what the other two are for since they're all hidden. Adds another of those arenas, this time making you fight as Alisha and Rose Party is Alisha, Rose, Edna, and Lailah at first.
Spoiler:
Zaveid joins later. Mikleo doesn't join the party at all, merely appearing in a scene near the end.
With the way it ends, I wouldn't be surprised if they make more of these New piece of art in the credits You get a title at the end. You also carry over any items you got.
Spoiler:
However, unlike the other costumes Alisha gets, Rose can't wear the new one. The hat is an attachment though so you can stick that on everyone if you want. Except Zaveid, because nothing can go over Dezel's hat. Boo.
I say get it while it's free. I wouldn't pay 1300 yen for it, Bamco is crazy.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:14 am
cutepresea wrote:
Party is Alisha, Rose, Edna, and Lailah at first.
Spoiler:
Zaveid joins later. Mikleo doesn't join the party at all, merely appearing in a scene near the end.
I say get it while it's free. I wouldn't pay 1300 yen for it, Bamco is crazy.
Well getting a fully playable Alisha and Zaveid makes me happy. Still sucks I can't have my team I really wanted of Sorey, Alisha, Zaveid, and Lailah...
Well Bamco better just add this in the game itself and not DLC for western release, I only have hope for that since they did do things like add extras in Abyss localization.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:38 am
It's more likely that they'll make the DLC a preorder bonus when it comes to the localization, assuming they do anything different with it at all.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:03 am
Very late response but auughh... So that's where you get the Zaveid color variation outfit. That's the only color variation I don't have yet. Doesn't seem like it's worth the trouble, though. Maybe in my second playthrough.
Still haven't figured out how to trigger the Aizen subevent by the way, so if anyone knows... I kinda wanna be able to finish the main game before doing the Alisha DLC.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:34 pm
Tales of Zestiria - Alisha After Story Battle Theme.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:40 pm
Well, I caved and played the Alisha story anyway. It's uh... UHHHH... I have a lot of mixed feelings on how the characters were handled here. Most importantly, can someone explain to me why Rose was being kind of a distant b*tch towards Alisha for most of it? It feels like she got hit by the same ugly stick that went up Lloyd's butt just before Dawn of the New World. Like some cold-hearted imposter was wearing Rose's character model like a suit, especially during cutscenes. In skits she was still sort of herself, I guess. And what bugs me most is that Edna and Lailah did nothing to intervene.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:11 pm
Taking another look at the DLC credits, it seems another composer named Eriko Sakurai is listed alongside Sakuraba and Shiina, so she probably did the new music in there.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:38 pm
According to translations, Edna said they were both at fault for their disagreement and Lailah was just kind of like yeah okay then....not sure if that helps LOL, Rose does tell them to be quiet at the beginning
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:59 am
But that doesn't explain why Rose was acting like that in the first place.
I started laughing so hard when Dezel yelled it's not his fault. And Rose as Milla, oh my gosh. And Edna with a Teepo voice...! Funnily enough, I can't tell the difference between regular Zaveid and Zelos!Zaveid. The Z Man will be the Z Man, I suppose.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:33 am
ShivKH wrote:
Do you have to fight a boss for all the colour variations? And is it just colour variations or do you need to fight bosses for the swappable ones too?
I'm really hoping a screenshot of
Spoiler:
Alisha in Rose's Assassin costume
is shown by someone at some point, I've been looking through threads on gamefaqs against my better judgment
Bad quality, but there you go. Need to add a pic of her DLC outfit...
And you get color variations through various events. You don't necessarily need to fight a boss. Zaveid's was the hardest to get tho, and it's not even good looking =/
Meowzy, to respond to your Tumblr post, specifically gameplay 3): you can change seraphs at will during battle. It's even smoother than Xillia's in-battle party reformation: you just need to press one button on the d-pad (up for Lailah, right for Zaveid, down for Edna and left for Mikleo iirc). It even works if you're currently controlling a seraph (say you're fighting with Mikleo and you suddenly want to play Zaveid, just hit -> and he's replaced by Zaveid under your control). There's also a battle act that enables you to change the other human's seraph (L2+d-pad), but I don't remember how to get it.
Also regarding the dragon, little nitpick but the NPC can see it ^^
I so agree on the Alisha DLC ugh. I too thought "fan service" when they had them fight like five year olds. The last couple of scenes were nice though, but I wish they'd happened earlier. I so want to see those two as friends.
And idk why you can't trigger the Aizen event. There doesn't seem to be special requirements...
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:56 pm
I keep forgetting that the seraph swapping in and out of battle is a thing. Partly because sometimes when I tried it, it went horribly wrong and suddenly instead of controlling Sorey I'd be controlling the fourth character in the lineup. Oh, the many times I got into seriously trouble because I was trying to swap party members and all of a sudden I was controlling a seraph without realizing it. After that, I only switched seraphim out after they KO'd.
Wait, the NPC can see it? How is that possible? I thought dragons were invisible to the human eye, just like seraphim?
Yeah, I'm really confused about it. When I enter the mountain area, Edna basically goes "nii-san" in the field skit, but when I go all the way up there, there's no green exclamation mark to trigger the cutscene. I'm wondering if maybe I should defeat that wyvern first, because afterwards there's some conversation about Zaveid and why he kills hyouma/hellions. I'll try that and if it doesn't work, I'll give up.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:10 pm
Haha I'm the contrary, I swap them in and out all the time. It's pretty dynamic once you get the hang of it, and it feels like all six characters are participating in battle. That's probably why the fixed aspect of the battle system strangely doesn't bother me in this game.
Humans can't see hellions, but the closer hellions get to dragons, the more visible they are. For example ouroboros, dragon puppies and dragonewts have some physical manifestations, such as tornadoes. Full-blown dragons are visible as is.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:17 pm
Huh... And seraphim can have manifestations like tornadoes too, right? Interesting.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:51 pm
They turned Beast into a Mystic Arte. That is all.
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:18 am
cutepresea wrote:
Taking another look at the DLC credits, it seems another composer named Eriko Sakurai is listed alongside Sakuraba and Shiina, so she probably did the new music in there.
I wonder if she really did create this specific new battle theme. It honestly don't sound very Sakuraba or Shiina-ish.
I hope they do start to get more music composers to start working on Tales again, perhaps have Go Shiina return and this new composer Erika Sakrai. Still curious to what happened to Shinji Tamura and Kazuhiro Nakamura but we need more variety you know...
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Subject: Re: Tales of Zestiria Discussion (SPOILERS) Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:54 am
So can Alisha armatize now or am I interpreting this image wrong?